How Holistic Health Works

We are talking about how holistic health works.

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First of all, let me welcome you to the show, Victor. Thank you for being here.

Thanks for having me on, Autumn. It's great to be here.

I'm very excited, and he is currently traveling, so we get to be envious of his travels, right, all together while he's traveling around.

So he said health, wellness, and nutrition is his passion, and he loves to help people get healthy, and he came to realize that there are many people who want... I need to get my microphone out of the way. Who want to lead healthier lives, and people who need someone to help teach them how to do that, and it feels great when you are able to help people achieve their health goals.

I totally understand that. And what motivated him is he saw friends and family around him getting sick, and he wanted to help them get better. So I assume that led him down a huge rabbit hole of how to do so. So tell us a little bit more about your journey, and let's kind of go from there, and I'll pull up my questions after researching you that I have for you.

All right, sounds good. Yeah, so

about 20 years ago, I started reading some books, on health and wellness and nutrition, and I started realizing that much of the information we were given on them was, was wrong. we were told to eat certain kind of foods as... We were told they were healthy, and they were not healthy.

we were told to avoid other foods because they said they were not healthy, but they actually are healthy. one example is eggs. we were told to take all kinds of medications, said they're gonna help us. But what I discovered is many of these medications, they really don't cure anything.

They just mask the symptoms, and so they don't address the root cause of the problem, and many of them also have really bad side effects, and many of them also drain you of nutrients which your body really greatly needs. So people And I just found out that the more of these medications people are on, the worse it tends to get.

I've never met a person who said, "I'm on 10 meds a day, and I feel awesome." It just doesn't exist. So me, I slowly started getting into it more and more, and as you mentioned, I started seeing friends and family getting sick, and I still see that. Montenegro right now.

I was seeing a lot of people here also in the country of Serbia, which is right nearby, friends and family there too. They're doing all the wrong things. They're drinking lots of alcohol. They're smoking a lot. They're nutrient deficient. And, and it breaks my heart watching them do this, and I'm telling them, "You guys need to stop that."

That was 20 years saying, "You guys are probably gonna get cancer, heart disease, or some other of these other disease like Alzheimer's, et cetera, diabetes, if you don't change this." I, you can't force these people. All you could do is you can make recommendations. They have, they have, they have the freedom to do whatever, to, to do it or not to do it.

But, just watching them go through this, a lot of these diseases, they're so avoidable if you do the right things. a lot of people don't know it. Some people do, and they choose not to do it, and that's fine. If they don't wanna do it, you... that's fine. But I know, I know a lot of people who don't know this information.

When I sh- start sharing it with them, and they start implementing it, they start improving.

you were looking over my shoulder today, weren't you? I went into ChatGPT, and I started plugging in two different medications that I take, and they actually conflict. And the doctor looked before I was prescribed, so I don't know what was there.

But I was starting to question some of my vitamins, and, right away, ChatGPT was "These two medicines you should not be taking together." Of course, I really like the way that whoever rewrote ChatGPT, it now says, "Of course you should talk to your provider about this first." So I was in there in the, the, the chat box for my provider, "Can I take this instead?

What do you think? I'm worried about this." And it also went through, and some of your vitamins are a little too high, and you might not have realized that this vitamin also has this other vitamin in it, and you're taking this separately. It w- it was becoming a little too high in certain areas. So it was amazing just to have that, because it used to be that you would talk to your pharmacist and they would go over those things, or your doctor would spend a little more time.

But that's not the day and age we live in anymore. And that's hugely the difference between seeing a primary care provider who is MD and working as a typical MD compared to someone who looks at holistic health, everything that deals with you. And I really loved what you said in the beginning. Say it again.

How do you spell holistic health and why? 'Cause I loved this.

We spell holistic with the letter W because we look at the whole person. We don't just look at one part of the person. we look at the physical, the psychological, the mental, the spiritual. Everything is interconnected. We don't just say, "Oh, look at the kidney, look at the heart, look at the stomach."

We look at the entire person. 'Cause all these things interact with one another, and they affect one another.

Yeah. And I think it's easier to ignore these things when you're younger, but as you get older, you start to get frustrated going to different specialists and saying, "No, you need to talk to this other specialist because we're talking about me , and all of this is connected because it is in, within my body."

And we believe that. No. Mm-hmm. Go ahead.

No, yeah, you're right. I mean, look, if your thyroid's out of whack, it's gonna affect so many other parts of your body. The thyroid drives so many things going on in your body. Many illnesses are caused by a lack of, nutrients, like the iodine and selenium that your thyroid badly needs, and it, it can lead to heart issues, cancer, and all kinds of other issues just by having thyroid problems.

So it can, it affects so many other parts of the body, and people are just not aware of it. People have issues elsewhere, and they don't realize that very often the origin is the issue in the thyroid that's affecting other parts of the body. So that's why you can't just, just look at one part of the body as a whole, because they often affect other parts of the body.

Yeah. And it totally goes with, and you started this part about talking about conflicting nutrition advice. This is me actually going off the questions that I wrote out for you.

how can someone tell the difference between good health information and misinformation?

Well, that's why you really need to do a lot of research on it, so...

And, and, and here's the thing. There are a lot of good guys. They're not gonna agree 100% on everything, and they might agree on 90, 95%. And then you gotta make your best judgment based on the things you've learned, saying, "Do I believe this guy, this woman, this guy?" It's sometimes not an easy thing to do.

there is definitely conflicting information on it. You also need to know who is the source of this information. for example, you'll see studies saying, "Oh, this vitamin doesn't work. It causes health issues." And then what they don't tell you is that very often those studies are funded by Big Pharma.

then they'll do these studies based on synthetic versions of the vitamins. And I would say in general you should avoid the synthetic versions of vitamins. You want the natural form. And when you do it with the natural form, you, the results are totally different. So you gotta also gotta see, when you get to see these studies, who's funding it, 'cause sometimes they're just funding it, and if it's, and if it supports what they want, they'll publish it, but if it goes against what they want, they will not publish.

There are a lot of studies Big Pharma will not publish because it goes against what they want the public to know, and a lot of people are not aware of that.

We actually have an episode that I recorded with a scientist on how do you research, what does this look like, and she broke it down for us. So I will link that episode in the description with this, because they correlate a lot.

We... And you're saying, Victor, we take things that are, maybe they're not quite one size fits all. Maybe they're fits most in certain categories. if you have... We'll go with thyroid some more. If you have this particular thyroid disease, this one size fits most, and then you can take the research to make it fit you.

Exactly. So I really like how you added that in together.

Yeah. And so I'll give you an example for that. People say, "What recommendation I give you?" I'll, I'll... A lot of times I tell people keep a food diary of what you eat every day. what? A lot of people don't realize what they're eating.

Sometimes when you look at the food diary, you think you're eating healthy and you really aren't. Then you look at the food diary, it's "Oh, I went to McDonald's seven times last month. Maybe I'm not eating as healthy as I can." But the other reason I tell them to, keep a food diary is you need to see when you have certain bad things happen to you, what foods you were eating that day.

Sometimes foods that are very healthy for people, for most people, sometimes can cause problems. Some foods are high in histamine. For example, avocados are generally healthy for the vast majority of people, but they're also high in histamine. So people who have histamine issues may have a problem when they eat avocados, and they might notice, the days they ate an avocado,

they had a problem going on. So maybe they should cut down on eating avocado. So generally for most people it's very good to eat, but for high histamine people, it could be a problem. So even foods that generally, that are generally good on occasion may be a problem for certain people, and they might see from their food diary they're having certain problems, certain issues come up when they eat the same foods.

That makes sense. Tell us, 'cause not everybody knows what this means,

what does histamine mean?

No, no, the, the, the histamines causes these, the, these issues o- in, in, in you. There's... It, it causes inflammation, all these other things in, in your body. So, and, and, and there's a lot of foods, spinach and other things that are actually high in histamine.

A lot of... Cer- number of these, fruits and vegetables that are generally good for people, cause the issue. But then there are, there, there are supplements that, for example, like vitamin C, that are anti-histamine, that helps bring these problems up, and it can also lead to more free radicals, which is another big problem that happens in your body that the high histamine foods can cause for you.

So, that's, yeah, and Actually, you need a small amount of free radicals. A lot of people don't need that. But, but the problem is people have way too many free radicals in their body, and that, that can wreak havoc on your immune system.

Give us some examples on that part.

it can lead to a whole bunch of other diseases. it could eventually lead to cancer, heart disease, diabetes, and all these things, Alzheimer's. A lot of that's caused by way too many free radicals. And, and you're leading...

eating a poor diet, a lot of oxidized foods, a lot of foods high in sugar, seed oils, stuff like that, low in nutrients. You... There are a lot of... You gotta avoid eating, foods that are high in calories but low in nutrients. If they're high in calories but high in nutrients, that's usually okay, but the problem is so many of the foods we're eating are also low in nutrients, so they're ultra-processed.

They're really junk foods. So your, your body very often is not crying for more food, it's crying out for more nutrients, which is why we need to focus on eating high nutrient food. That's why I'm a big supporter of eggs. I mean, not... There are cases that some people have egg issues, so if... Those who obviously they may not be able to eat eggs, but most people are able to eat eggs, and they're some of the most nutritious foods out there, and yet we were told for many years to avoid eggs, which people have been eating for centuries with no problems because they're high in cholesterol and can cause cholesterol issues.

Number one, cholesterol food... And, and, and the government admitted this 10 years ago, cholesterol foods that are h- that are high in cholesterol have a minimal effect on the blood cholesterol level in your body. But also, cholesterol is actually a very important nutrient. You need it for your brain, you need it to make bile, you need it to make vitamin D, you need it to make...

Without cholesterol, there, there would be no human race because you need it to make testosterone, estrogen, and progesterone, and your cells need cholesterol. So it's an extremely important nutrient, and it's been totally vilified. It is a problem only when it becomes oxidized. So when it becomes oxidized, it's a problem, but in f- most of the time, cholesterol is your friend, not your enemy, and you don't want too much of it.

So drugs such as statins that lower your cholesterol, it's no surprise that ever since they introduced statins in the late 1980s, the rates of Alzheimer's and dementia have skyrocketed because it gets rid of cholesterol, which your body needs. They... Instead of focusing on cholesterol, they should be focusing on triglycerides, but there, there really aren't many meds that can lower the triglycerides level in your body.

But there are plenty of meds that can lower cholesterol, but it's the wrong thing to focus on. We need to get... We gotta take care of the triglycerides. That's often one of the big problems going on in your body. Your triglyceride levels are high, and it's usually a, a blood sugar issue.

How do you help your triglycerides within your foods?

Well, again, you gotta lower the foods that are... Lower the ultra-processed foods. Lower the foods that are high in sugar. Lower those seed oils, the, seed oil foods that's causing a lot of the problems. There are supplements you could take. B1 is very important for processing sugar, and when you take too much sugar, it lowers your B1 levels, and you're deficient in B1, so B1 is extremely important.

in terms of blood sugar issues, chromium and vanadium are extremely important for the cells to put the insulin in the cells instead of outside the cells, and which often happens when you're insulin resistant. So chromium and vanadium, many people are deficient in. Another supplement that can help with your blood sugar issues and the triglycerides is berberine.

instead of taking metformin, take something more natural, which works just as effectively as metformin without the side effects. So I think berberine is something good people can take. So I've been taking it for years. So these are things I use. I practice what I preach , And my blood sugar, insulin levels are fine.

And the people who take these things, they'll have the same results. Yet you gotta limit the sugars. People... And I'm just not talking about regular sugars. The artificial sweeteners are also a big problem as well, 'cause they affect your gut health, they affect your brain. sugar, it, it, it, it... Sugar affects, the brain in a very negative way.

And there's a big problem is something called fructose, which, it's been linked to cancer and a whole bunch of other disease. And it, it works similar, it, it just destroys your liver similar to the way alcohol does. So, for many years, w- fatty liver disease was caused by alcohol, but now millions of Americans have something called NAFLD, which is non-alcoholic fatty liver disease, which is caused by too much sugar, and especially the fructose, 'cause c- it can only be metabolized by the liver.

And the liver's your great detox organ, but if you overwhelm it with too many poisons, like too many meds, too much fructose, and other junk, it's gonna get overwhelmed. It can only do so much for you. If you give it too much to handle, it's, it's gonna, it's gonna start breaking down. So that's why you wanna limit the fructose And which is why I I recommend don't eat fruit, don't drink fruit juice because it's high fructose and it doesn't have fiber to slow it down like regular fruits do.

That was perfect to add in. If we are shopping in the grocery store and we're looking at packaged foods, of course unpackaged is better, right? Natural, naturally grown. If we are looking at ingredient labels, what is the highest amount of ingredients that we should allow in our packaged food?

in general, I would just say here the fewer the number of ingredients probably usually the better it is.

The three or four ingredients is probably fine. If there are 35 ingredients, it's probably full of lots of junk. If it's a lot of ingredients you can't even pronounce, it's probably food you shouldn't eat. If you can't pronounce it, you probably should not be eating it. And there are a lot of foods out there, a lot of the cakes, the Hostess cupcakes, the Drake's cakes, all that stuff, they usually have a lot of these things, the Entenmann's cakes, all those things, Little Debbie's, all those things have a lot of ingredients you can't even pronounce, and you should not, eat it.

A lot of those things have lots of sugar, lots of s- seed oils. just read the ingredients. And us- usually that's 30 ingredients, you probably shouldn't get it. three or four or five ingredients, that should be the max in general.

Perfect. what are some foods people commonly think are healthy that they that may not be as healthy as they think?

Well, one of is modern wheat bread. we've been told it's, it's healthy. Unfortunately, modern wheat, the reason they came up with modern wheat bread, probably about 60 years ago, is because the traditional wheat, which was healthier, unfortunately had low yields. So they came up with this idea.

I don't think there was a conspiracy behind it. I think just, they just thought, it was, it was gonna le- lead to higher yield, which it did, but they didn't, do enough experimenting and research to realize there were a lot of bad side effects. It can lead to celiac disease, it can lead to irritable bowel syndrome, increased inflammation, affect your brain negatively.

It leads to diabetes and weight gain. And in fact, modern wheat bread actually has a higher glycemic index than regular table sugar, and many people are not aware of that. So if you worry about your glycemic index, you probably should limit the amount of wheat bread. the only thing it really gives you extra is, is a little bit of extra fiber, but most of the other stuff it, that it gives you is bad for you.

So that's something that's not healthy. So, fat-free foods, again, another thing, people should be careful of because when you get rid of the fat, you get rid of the taste. So what do you replace it with? Lots of sugar. So if you look at a lot of fat-free foods, they usually have a lot of sugar. Same thing with gluten-free.

and I'm all supportive for limiting gluten, 'cause gluten can be really bad, which is something also modern wheat will do. It gives you too much gluten, which can, very often destroy the villi in your intestine, which can, make it harder for you to absorb foods. So gluten-free foods, you gotta be careful with them because a lot of times they have a lot of these sugars in them, like modified tapioca starch or something.

They're usually under a lot of different names. So don't just look for the word sugar, look for high, high fructose corn syrup or corn silk. There's a lot-- There are probably, 80, 90, 100 different names for these various sugars, and you'll see them a lot in gluten-free foods because, again, they put a lot of these fake sugars in them.

So those are things we've been sold are healthy that are not healthy. And as I mentioned before, eggs are, have been vilified as being bad, but they're actually good for you. Salt is another thing that's been vilified for being bad, but it's actually very important for you. You need it to avoid being dehydrated.

That's actually what you need, the various el- electrolytes salt. That's more important than the water. Obviously you need water, but you need those electrolytes. When you, when you have a fever, what happens? You're usually low in those salts. So you take something like Pedialyte or something. It'll give you those electrolyte salts which your body needs when you, you lose during a f- a fever.

And when I'm talking about salt, I don't mean the salt you buy in the store that might have some iodine, which is a very important nutrient, by the way. I'm talking about the salts that have 60 to 80 minerals, whether it's Celtic sea salt, Red Sea salt, or Himalayan salt. Those are the kind of salts that are good for you.

They have a minimal effect on your blood pressure. And, people have been eating salt for thousands of years with no problems. And in the countries where they actually have a higher salt intake, like Japan, South Korea, or France, their longevity rates are much higher than the countries which have low salt intake.

So, it, you should get your, have your salt and eat it. So don't worry about eating salt. It's only a problem, for example, if you have kidney issues. 'Cause the, when the kidneys are working fine- They can get rid of the excess salt. But if they're not working fine, yeah, and they have to be careful 'cause they may not be able to get rid of the excess potassium, for example.

So then you may need to limit the salt also some, so you have heart problems, that could be an issue. But in general, if your health is fine, you can pretty much have as much salt as possible, and it's important for your cells as well. So another one that's been vilified for no reason whatsoever.

That is actually one that I was surprised by with working on my blood panels, and I did a hair follicle analysis with a functional medicine nurse.

I'm low on salt. I was raised in the generation that salt's bad for you, so I've had a low salt diet by choice for most of my life. Oops. And also, I was low on iodine because they go together depending on which kind of salt I use.

Mm-hmm.

So that was very eye-opening, especially because thyroid issues run in my family.

So thankfully I don't have thyroid issues, and I wanna keep that, keep that away. So yeah, I'm increasing my salt intake, and I notice I am thirstier today, and I forgot to put a little bit of salt in my water over here. So I will be doing that when we're done.

That's

awesome.

yeah. Let's see, what is my next question?

You already answered that one. What actually makes food ultra-processed? what... You said a long list of ingredients, ingredients that we can't, pronounce

Pronounce

What else is in there?

A lot of times they strip out the fiber, which is very important for you, 'cause it, this way allows the food to b- last longer on the shelves, and they put in a lot of these ingredients like potassium bromate, something which actually, forbidden in a lot of other countries.

But there are certain ingredients that they allow in the US that are forbidden in many other countries because they've been classified as being harmful, sometimes carcinogenic. thankfully, a, a few months ago, the government announced they're gonna be taking color dyes out of foods, which has been banned in Europe for decades, so that's a step in the right direction, and I think the new food pyramid is definitely a great stop, a great start in the other direction, too.

So i- it's... And, and, and a lot of these ultra-processed foods, they're usually lower in potassium levels, they're lower in magnesium levels, and some of these other important nutrients as well. So that's what stripping, the fiber and other important things that are necessarily help happens during this ultra-processing thing.

I mean, proc- foods get processed all the time. It's the extreme ultra-processing that puts a lot of these junk things, makes it last, where people think, "Oh, is this gonna last me for four years? That's great." That's not a good thing. It's usually if, if it's lasting you for four years, it's probably ultra-processed, it's probably not good for you.

Yeah.

This is amazingly helpful for me. I know most people that I've spoken to, I found this for myself and then others, are lower in magnesium. Can you talk about that? where do we find this naturally in foods? It sounds like one reason why many of us may be lower is having ultra-processed diet at some point in our lives.

And for me, I'm realizing, looking back, this has been a generational problem in my family.

Yeah. Yeah. It just is... It, it starts out with the fact that the soils are deficient in minerals, and we've known this since 1936. A US Senate report came out saying that the soils were deficient in minerals. That was 90 years ago, and it's only gotten much worse.

So even if you eat a really healthy diet, just like all organic foods with very little processing, all that stuff, you eat as m- as healthy as possible, you still will not be able to get all the nutrients that you need, which is why I also say you need to supplement. maybe in 1900 you could have done it without supplementing.

It's impossible to do so right now. So, the soils generally don't have... And here's the thing, plants cannot make minerals on its own. If it's not in the soil, the plant will not be able to give it to you. It can sometimes make certain vitamins if it's nourished enough, getting enough water and sun, stuff like that, but plants cannot make minerals.

And we need about 60 minerals every single day. So, that's been, been part of the problem, too. The ultra-processed has caused issues like that. Now, especially for magnesium, yeah, again, it's stripped out with, when they take the fiber, other things out. Another problem is, magnesium used to be in the m- many of the city waters.

 from the faucets, you used to be able to get some magnesium. But now most cities do not have magnesium in the water. There are a few that do, and probably those cities have fewer deficiencies in magnesium than the other cities. I think we need to start putting magnesium back in the water.

That's gonna help it too, 'cause over half the country's definitely deficient in magnesium. So you can get them from various green leafy vegetables. The greens will do, a lot of veggies have them. bananas will have them, avocados will have them. I wouldn't recommend overdoing it with the bananas just because of the high, sugar content.

But there is also, almonds will have it as well. some, some peanuts will have it. but those are probably the best sources of food for, for magnesium, and you can just get get good supplements. Now, you gotta be careful 'cause I... Over here, one of my friends, she was taking magnesium.

I looked at it, and she w- in the, in it, it had magnesium oxide, which is one of the worst forms of magnesium. It's only about 4 to 5% absorbable, which means you're basically throwing your money away. So you want better forms of magnesium. Probably the best form of magnesium is magnesium glycinate, which is very highly absorbable.

Magnesium citrate is also very good. magnesium malate is also very good. So you might wanna try one of those, but definitely stay away from magnesium oxide. It is one of the worst forms of it. So I got her on magnesium glycinate that they had at the store. She's been taking it. She's been, she's been feeling definitely better because she's getting real magnesium in her.

So it's not what you take what matters, it's what you absorb, so you gotta make sure these things are absorbed. So if you get, if a multivitamin. Some people are "Well, I got this nice multivitamin on Amazon for 10 bucks." There's a reason why it's only 10 bucks, because it's probably only 8% absorbable.

It's better to spend 50 bucks on a multivitamin that's 80 to 90, 95% absorbable because it's absorbing a lot more. So you gotta sometimes you get what you pay for, so you need to do the research making make sure you're getting these good quality supplements that's giving you high absorbability.

'Cause if you're absorbing little, you're not getting much benefit

And is this something that you go over with your clients?

A- absolutely. some people complain about the money. the supplements I do, it on the average, it costs them about $150 a month for most people, and people say, "That's too expensive."

I was "Is $5 a day worth it for your health? How much... You, you, you... People go to Starbucks and spend $5 on a cup of coffee."

Which is

with

this much sugar.

Yeah, exactly. Lots of sugar. Yeah. So why not spend it on your health? You should think of your health as a good quality sock. You would spend money on a good quality sock because you think it's worth it.

You should see your health as the exact same thing. It's worth, your health should be worth spending money on.

And it's cheaper than a nursing home.

Absolutely. People don't look at the cost of, how much is it gonna cost if I'm in a nursing home if I can't, or if I'm immobile, I can't get up? I mean, the, it, the thing is, it compounds.

 if you had a heart attack after eating a Big Mac, you would never have a Big Mac again. The problem is... Or have a cigarette, you, if you had a heart attack after having a cigarette, you would never smoke. But unfortunately, it's years of smoking, years of eating McDonald's Big Macs and other junk food, and it slowly compounds.

And then over 10, 15, 20 years, you see these disaster results to your health. So that's why people don't realize, 'cause, oh, I had a, a, I, I smoked a pack of cigarettes, nothing happens to me. But smoking a pack of cigarettes over the course of 10, 20 years does a lot of damage to your health.

And I have one last question, 'cause we're getting close on time, and then the rest of them I'll email to you.

And those that are listening, w- I will have this in my newsletter. So jump over to my newsletter and we will continue the conversation there. He will respond to my questions, and then you'll have links there. Because I had this idea from listening to another podcast, and I had so many things that I wanted to think about as, homework.

I hate that word now that I'm post-graduate. of homework. But the next podcast episode came on and I quickly forgot what I wanted to continue thinking about. So this is my grand idea, is that I'm going to have this so that you can think about these things, and you'll have them in your email so you can think about it easier than getting it out of your head so easily with another podcast episode.

So know that this will be on. But for somebody who is deciding, "I need to eat healthier," quote unquote here,

how can they get over the overwhelm and find their starting line? Where would you have them start?

Yeah, here's the thing. It's just try to do little steps. Don't try to do everything all at once.

 if you, if you wanna walk, five miles a day, don't try to walk five miles a day. Try to walk two to three blocks. Do that first. It becomes two to three blocks, becomes five blocks, then 10 blocks, 'cause it will compound. It's if you go lift weights, you don't have to work out for three hours the first time you go.

You can work out for five, 10 minutes, because it becomes a pattern. Five, 10 minutes becomes 15, 20. So do little things. if you're eating, five different types of junk food a day, cut it down to three. And then cut it down to two, and then to one, then you start eating good quality food. You don't have to do it all over, all at once because it could be overwhelming for you.

And your body, when it's detoxing, it can have overwhelm, and sometimes you might feel worse before you start getting better. I know that when people get on our supplements, they don't... They sometimes have withdrawal symptoms, so the first few days they feel worse. But after, a week or two they start feeling a lot better.

So you sometimes might have detoxing. So I would say start slowly. Be gradual with the changes you make. You don't have to do it all at once, because when you try to do it, it, it can be overwhelming. You, you might say it doesn't work. That's why I say do it... How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time.

And that's the way you should approach this as well. And, One step at a

time ... and I said, we will have these things in the newsletter as well as how to reach out to him. It's in the show notes. But if sometimes we have life where the next ep- episode automatically goes on and we're trying to search back through what we already listened to to find who you are.

But for those who they're about to pause and move on to the next thing, not another episode, so they can quickly Google you, how do they find you? If they're looking on social media or they wanna get on your website,

how do they find you?

Now, they go to my website, victordedaj.com. Dedaj is spelled D-E-D-A-J.

They can find me on Facebook, on LinkedIn as well. They can also get a free health evaluation at yourfreehealthevaluation.com. They can also email me at victordedaj@victordedaj.com. And if you wanna learn more, I have a book on Amazon called Y- How to be Happy, Healthy and Whole, and I made it affordable, so if you have Kindle, it's only 99 cents.

Oh, you really did make it affordable. Wow. Thank you so much for this, and I said, as soon as we are done here, I'll email you the rest of my questions because I wanna continue this conversation. I want people to be continually thinking about how to become healthier, not just, oh, next episode, whether or not it's my show or somebody else in their queue.

I want them to have this front and center. you said, we live in such a world where we eat a lot of highly processed foods, and then when we think we're choosing healthy, maybe we're not because the soil's been depleted. How are we taking care of ourselves, and how can we eat our own elephant? Because our elephant is going to be different from somebody else's.

So thank you for this conversation. It was impactful. I know it was for me, and I know that we will be getting a lot of responses saying how impactful it was for others as well.

Oh, you're welcome, Autumn. Thanks for having me on the show. It was a real pleasure being here.

Oh, thank you. I hope you have a wonderful day.

Thank you. You too. Take care.

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