How the Disease Process of Chronic Illness Works

[00:00:00] Autumn Carter: This is episode 191 about chronic illness.

[00:00:05] Speaker: Welcome to Wellness. In every season, we talk all things wellness, to help you align yourself, align with your goals, find balance and recalibrate.

[00:00:19] Autumn Carter: The statistics keep growing on how many people have chronic illness, even if you don't have it you will know somebody who does. Today I have Dr. Brad, a passionate caregiver with decades of research and clinical application of functional medicine in restoring health to those with chronic illness. It is common for him to be able to give people their life back that no other caregivers have been able to help. His compassionate understanding comes from years of his own struggles with chronic illness, and the Lord giving him tools to help himself and others get free from ongoing sickness.

[00:00:55] Welcome Dr. Brad.

[00:00:57] Dr. Brad: Thanks for inviting me.

[00:00:59] Autumn Carter: I'm [00:01:00] excited. Let's talk about your symptoms.

[00:01:04] Dr. Brad: I was five years old and up in a emergency room late at night with a doctor saying, do this no explanation of what's going on, why it's there, how it's gonna resolve, how to avoid it. I'm five years old thinking this is crazy, and I got gut wrenching pain.

[00:01:21] It woke me up in the middle of the night and I can't sleep. I don't know why it's there, some weird rectal thing a couple years later, our family took a vacation in the mountains.

[00:01:33] I got some sickness up there that had the world spinning around me 24 7, 365 days a year for years. I walked like a drunken sailor real wide stance 'cause the world was spinning around me so much. I had so much vertigo, so nauseous, ready to puke all the time that I, had to concentrate to stay on my feet.

[00:01:59] Really [00:02:00] athletic, really coordinated, really fast reflexes, but the whole world spin around me and it really shaped a lot of character concentration just to stay on my feet and do the things I wanna do. I, started cooking when I was five years old because of, I realized way back then if I ate different than the rest of my family, I felt better.

[00:02:22] I started experimenting with food at five years old. One of my brothers brought home, strep throat, that got me and him and other people with a bunch of antibiotics that filled me full of fungal infection.

[00:02:35] I'm in early grade school full of fungal infections. My tonsils look like blue cheese with great big, huge fissures and all that white and blue fuzzy stuff coming out. Later I got Lyme disease.

[00:02:50] No doc figured out why I was always having ear infections had to figure that out myself. We've been using those tools to help other people.

[00:02:58] Had a young gal, [00:03:00] 17 failed to thrive her entire life. She'd been seeing some of the most renowned specialists in the world at the time. Nobody had any idea what was going on. She hadn't cycled in a year. She let us measure three months after we started because doctors threatened to call social service and rip her out of her homeschooled home

[00:03:21] Put in foster care 'cause they figured the parents had to be abusive. 'cause the doctors couldn't figure it out and it wasn't working. She was full of Lyme disease. She was born with Lyme disease and she went through puberty a second time in college. She was totally dyslexic, couldn't exercise, she couldn't do what she liked.

[00:03:40] as she started to heal up this great of mind, woke up and she's really artistic. Really, creative. She met Mr. Right. She moved halfway cross country. Invited us out to their wedding and her fiance comes up to us before the wedding says to me and my wife, I am so glad you guys are here.

[00:03:59] If it [00:04:00] wasn't for you, this day would never have happened. He was choked up. She celebrated over a decade. The day she was Lyme free. Medical doctors told her she'd never have children. They got two children. Happy family. That's the kind of story we have.

[00:04:17] Autumn Carter: I didn't know you could be born with Lyme disease.

[00:04:18] Dr. Brad: Lyme disease is a fluid transfer disease, ticks will transfer fluid from an infected host anything that takes fluid from an infected host and expose another one, transfers it. So saliva, you share a milkshake on an old world date that does it. Share food,

[00:04:37] kissing sexual fluids, crosses placental barrier. It's in breast milk. It's in 2 to 3% of the blood bank in Minnesota and Wisconsin, transferred by mosquitoes, spiders, biting flies.

[00:04:51] You name it, no matter what people wanna say and think, there's no microbe respects any boundaries

[00:04:57] Autumn Carter: i'm a good candidate for that. They love me. I have to [00:05:00] use hardcore DEET bug spray. Otherwise they don't care.

[00:05:04] Dr. Brad: Bug spray is really toxic They're all neurotoxins There's better ways essential oils are as good, if not better

[00:05:12] Autumn Carter: tell me.

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[00:05:12] Dr. Brad: Rosemary is one. You, could use that for perfume. It's, it is a real deep smell that's really alluring at the same time. You can use it for that. There's cedarwood oil. Both work pretty good.

[00:05:28] take some rosemary, rub it between your, hands and rub that on your pants around your neck and wherever else you want. Eucalyptus is another one.

[00:05:37] Do you ever end up giving ideas when you're ministering, especially in prisons where you bring the doctor cap with you too?

[00:05:49] I've, done a lot of things in life generally what I put my mind to I do extremely well.

[00:05:57] So it allows me [00:06:00] a, more of a global understanding of function of everything. And I got 50 years of construction under my belt with, plumbing, electrical engineering issues, structural issues, fabrication, auto mechanics. there's just a lot that I've done in life, a whole bunch, and it all ties together.

[00:06:23] Basic things allow everything to work. The more you put your mind to, the more you realize that it's easy with that basis to use whatever interests somebody, use that subject to explain something that they wouldn't ever expect to be related. But it is.

[00:06:44] All hormone dysregulation stems from gut dysfunction, food intolerance the microbes inside of the gut are messed up, and it's the toxicity that comes off of that, that disregulates all the metabolic functions, hormones included.

[00:06:59] That's a [00:07:00] simple reality when you look at all chronic illness

[00:07:04] Some might not understand that, but chronic illness is this great, big global subject matter. That doesn't mean that you're sick, it just means something's not working right inside of the body. And when you take the regulation of things like hormones, right on the base of the skull, we've got this part of the brain called the hypothalamus registers levels of minerals, gases, hormones, critical for us to stay alive and manage internally, relating to the external.

[00:07:42] Hypothalamus, registers all of that. Just behind the bridge of your nose is this pea-sized organ called the pituitary. The hypothalamus measures the circulating levels of hormones. It communicates how good [00:08:00] those are doing to the pituitary and pituitary sends signals out to all the hormonal organs and either says, attaboy, keep it up, everything's fine.

[00:08:10] Or, Hey, things are a little low. Pick it up or drop it down communication is between the hypothalamus and pituitary. The pituitary sends signals to the hormonal organs what disregulates, all of that is toxicity.

[00:08:23] And you talked about perimenopause. Hot flashes from toxins is not from estrogen. It can be toxic estrogen, but it's not from the hormones. It's from toxicity, and you deal with the detox pathways heal the gut and all that goes away. Other societies don't have the problems we have, they just stop cycling.

[00:08:47] Women don't go through the insanity they do here in the states.

[00:08:51] Autumn Carter: We have a lot of symptoms and we're told it's normal just deal with it

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[00:08:56] Dr. Brad: actually not normal. Have you ever heard the Blue Zones? Yes. Okay. The [00:09:00] Blue Zones is pretty common for people live 120 years old. They can live a lot longer than that and don't need to go down those stories, but those people are typically still working in their nineties, their sexual interaction in their nineties, like 30 olds over here, two to three times a week on average. In the nineties.

[00:09:25] Autumn Carter: That's the goal, the reason this podcast exists, align ourselves, our bodies, every dimension of wellness using the eight dimensions so we are living as long and as healthily as possible.

[00:09:41] So We can live into our nineties, one hundreds and be, fully present. We can have all the finances but if we aren't taking care of everything else, the money disappears because we're going to the doctor all the time, or it's now going to be [00:10:00] used for an inheritance for somebody else or for you to donate somewhere else.

[00:10:05] You're not going to have this full and beautiful life if you're not taking care of yourself right now.

[00:10:12] Dr. Brad: In the United States, we have the most costly healthcare, we have the worst health. That should make it clear. That's not the system that's gonna allow you to obtain what you just talked about, the best health and life.

[00:10:33] Let's springboard from that and talk about what sets the stage for chronic illness.

[00:10:39] Autumn Carter: Yes, please.

[00:10:40] Dr. Brad: This sets the stage for hormonal dysregulation, metabolic dysfunction, autoimmune disease.

[00:10:47] I've never seen a, case of Lyme disease that wasn't started with this already in place. So if you take your hand and you hold your fingers up in front of your face, your fingers [00:11:00] represent the lining of the gut and how your fingers represent what's called microvilli. Those microvilli increase the surface area of the gut about 400 times.

[00:11:12] It's insane how much. Surface area, they create between the fingers. The microbia create a mucus and it fills over and caps over the top. It's in that mucus where all the microbes in the gut live and grow. And when you look at electron microscope, picture of that is so clear that food can never touch the micro villa.

[00:11:40] It's the microbes that come outta the mucus, interact with the food in what's called the lumen hole. The food goes down in the center of the gut. It's the microbes that go up and interact with that, do all the digestion, bring the nutrients back to the microvilli, and the microvilli can absorb those.

[00:11:57] Same thing goes on in the soil with roots of [00:12:00] plants microbes present nutrients in the soil to the roots in an absorbable form. We got the same thing in all plant life, all animal life, people don't talk about those things.

[00:12:15] So generally it's the health of that microbial coating that determines a large part of our life. When, that's healthy, your fingers are extended producing good mucus, and we got healthy microbes it sets the stage for everything else in the body to be healthy. But if you have anything creates inflammatory responses inside the gut it'll, take those fingers extended like that, and you roll your fingers into a fist and roll it up.

[00:12:50] So you just see your knuckles. It can turn your gut wall from your fingers extended to just your knuckles in as little [00:13:00] as 24 hours of high inflammatory issues. Virtually every medication causes that NSAIDs, anti-inflammatory issues over the counter

[00:13:10] antibiotics create that. A lot of your psychological for ADHD and depression, anxiety, all those cause that. Your antifungals destroy the microbiota. As soon as you atrophy the microvilli, there's almost nothing to produce mucus.

[00:13:31] There's no place for microbes to hide and they all wash down the toilet and pathogens grow. One of the biggest pathogens is candida. Oral birth control is one of the biggest reasons why women get so many yeast infections and all that. But the flora in her reproductive tract is almost identical to what's in her gut.

[00:13:55] And it's the gut's, the biggest pool of all that stuff. So if the reproductive tracts had [00:14:00] problems, so is the gut, and it doesn't heal by itself. the gut's the hardest thing to heal. once healthy microbes wash down the toilet and we get the pathogens grow

[00:14:10] it's got four forms. Yeast fungal fungal parasite form. When you look at fungus or. Mold. You see all the fuzz coming off. The fuzz called mycelia. Those are your feeding tubules. And those, all the structures of that are made up of kite.

[00:14:30] And the same thing that makes a outside skeleton of beetles, crickets, and shrimp, that all the cell walls of candida forms are made of kite your immune system can't do anything with it. And once those little fibers pierces the gut wall, which is only one cell layer thick, the lining is only one cell layer thick that can break off, float around in the body, becomes a fungal parasite, and then create a new body of fungus [00:15:00] wherever goes.

[00:15:01] So that's your brain, your joints, your bones everywhere. There's no places impervious to that. Those pathogens, create all these toxins and the toxins don't get processed in the normal way toxicity does. I'm sure people that are listening, they've heard of liver detoxes. Your liver's the last stage of detoxification the catchall.

[00:15:30] We've got four detox organs. Small intestinal wall, colon wall, microbes inside and liver. It receives blood that returns from the gut and filters out microbes that have escaped from the gut. It's got immune function and therefore things that have escaped out of the gut and it's the last place for toxins be processed.

[00:15:56] Toxins are processed in two different phases. Phase [00:16:00] one, there's five different pathways in that, and those pathways make things become free radicals. More toxic than the original toxin phase two makes those water soluble and more inert so they can be excreted. If you wipe out the gut wall, you take the micro vill. Atrophy and you lost one half of your detox function in your body.

[00:16:30] Once that gets wiped out, the flora wipes out. three out of four detox organs gone. Liver can't make up for all that. Liver gets overwhelmed. Toxins spill out systemically. Three quarters of the immune system is in the gut wall. The gut leaks like a sieve, all the immune function, all the strength immune function is trying to deal with all these toxic things that are coming outside the gut.

[00:16:59] The [00:17:00] immune system has no detox function. liver is overwhelmed when toxicity liver can't even begin to catch up, spills out systemically. Those toxins get out through the skin and lungs. All the rash that people get are autoimmune responses from these toxins going out through the secondary elimination organ, and everybody with asthma, things like that.

[00:17:21] That's from the same issue going out through the lungs. Autoimmune responses going on inside of those. So the only way you can deal with the toxicity is restore the integrity of the gut. Restore the micro in the gut and generic programs don't do that. People talk about candida cleanses.

[00:17:44] They're dealing only with yeast form, partially. They're not dealing with the other four forms and it's still The gut is the hardest thing to deal with, so that's what sets the stage for everything. This global toxicity, disregulates [00:18:00] every metabolic function in the body. That's what disregulates all the hormones.

[00:18:04] It's what creates all the autoimmune responses. When you look at the research of autoimmune responses, there's a article, I think it's in 2008 from the American Journal of Pathology that says, when you restore the integrity of the gut wall, autoimmune process just quit. We've been doing functional medicine for four decades.

[00:18:29] fix the gut they no longer have 'em Crohn's disease, IBS, it goes away. A lot of your things like anxiety, depression, that's linked up to the adrenal. When you look at the hormones that you're talking with, the perimenopause, the adrenals make the precursors to sexual hormones.

[00:18:50] and DHEA in reproductive organs in men are identical. If it's a male child in utero, about seven weeks [00:19:00] after conception, a. Small upsurge of testosterone. The ovaries grab the round ligament drop down. In labia the ovaries become the testicles.

[00:19:11] Labia become the scrotum. The round ligament becomes a spermatic cord. The urethra becomes a prostate gland. Problems men have with their prostate later in life, it's the same thing that causes urine problems in women, toxic estrogens.

[00:19:28] It's never testosterone. And when we take the pre hormones coming off the adrenals, the pregno, DHEA, those get converted in peripheral tissues in both men and women, also in the ovaries and testicles. progesterone converts into testosterone, and testosterone converts into estrogen.

[00:19:51] Plus every hormone we make, some of the flora and the side of the gut makes some of those also. When you have toxicity there's an alarm it [00:20:00] makes the adrenals push out more cortisol and adrenaline. It steals the pregna and DHEA to make cortisol

[00:20:08] There's nothing to make the sexual hormones,

[00:20:10] Autumn Carter: that's the stress hormone, right? Cortisol. Okay.

[00:20:14] Dr. Brad: Stress and anti-inflammatory hormones. So when there's a chronic alarm system all the precursors to make sexual hormones get stolen, to make the primary stress hormones, cortisol and adrenaline.

[00:20:28] there's nothing left to build sexual hormones. you get atrophy in the sexual tissues. Breasts lose fullness. shape. They start to sag. They start to have genital atrophy with that, and you start to have a rectal dysfunction. That's why women with chronic illness, perimenopausal areas and into menopause, have a hard time with sexual fulfillment.

[00:20:56] It's because the hormones have dropped their rectal tissues don't [00:21:00] work without hormones and don't engage. So it really takes an attentive partner to get them fulfilled sexually because they have to be very aware and address that process with more intention

[00:21:22] Every woman with. Chronic illness and as you're heading into perimenopause in menopause in America, they all have rectal dysfunction. No one talks about it. I've only heard of a couple other docs that talk about it.

[00:21:39] I talk about it all the time 'cause it's such a big thing they don't talk about, women. They can be fulfilled. I, think that's a huge issue because sexuality and sexual interaction is something that is a peak interest from their very young children all the way the [00:22:00] grave, it never ends.

[00:22:03] Autumn Carter: all of this goes back to gut health.

[00:22:06] Dr. Brad: of it.

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[00:23:14] You have us interested. we have a good idea How to know when our gut's off track, what can we do to start reversing it?

[00:23:23] Dr. Brad: I've got a, book on a webpage that gives the real keys

[00:23:31] It's at getmewell.net and the basis behind that book. People believe that genetics is what sets the stage for everything in life. That's a lie. Every gene has 30,000 ways it can express

[00:23:51] It's your lifestyle that determines how those genes express themselves. You can have a good gene and a bad lifestyle and never get the good expression. [00:24:00] bad genes with a good lifestyle never get the bad expressions. It's called Healing Lifestyle on get me well.net.

[00:24:07] It's got the best information on simple things to change your lifestyle and rebuild health.

[00:24:14] Autumn Carter: This is stuff that's built, based on science and even more through the practical application with your patients.

[00:24:22] Dr. Brad: I function differently clinically than most docs.

[00:24:26] Every person we work with is a clinical study. We don't do generic programs I never have, and probably never will All alternative care, work off protocols. a generic sheet of paper.

[00:24:38] I've specialized in chronic illness for four decades. It's been my life, my study it I grew up with it.

[00:24:48] I understand it really well. The top functional medicine doc Dr. Mark Hyman. When he gets a new patient he does a hundred different tests on those people and there's things he can [00:25:00] add on top of that.

[00:25:01] My intake is four and a half times that. We're 450 tests where every person we take in right away on day one, no waiting for results. We do our own evaluations and we can do those at a long distance of work with people all over the world. it's just as accurate in my office as it is. A lot of people are a thousand, some of 'em are other side of the world away from us.

[00:25:30] No difference. I'll, give you this story a, young girl, five years old, spent five and a half days in a research hospital connected to two medical schools, both known all over the world, five and a half days in a research hospital. They did, spent five and a half days doing scans, tests, everything.

[00:25:53] At the end of five and a half days, they told the parents, we have no idea what's going on with your daughter. Maybe you should see a [00:26:00] rheumatologist, see what they can do for you. If you go to rheumatologist, you're put on chemotherapy to deal with cancer issues. That's how, that's what they do.

[00:26:09] That's how they work. A family member was working with us, got ahold of their parents and said, you need to work with my doc. They got ahold of me in an afternoon, had 'em fill out paperwork. We did an evaluation that afternoon. This girl spent that five and a half days in the hospital just laying in bed crying.

[00:26:28] She couldn't eat. She couldn't walk, she couldn't move. She just absolutely miserable. We did an evaluation that evening. Next morning, she's outta bed. Three days later, she's outside. Six months down the road, she's healthier than she's ever been. She's a thousand miles away. We never saw her face to face. We did all that over distance of a thousand miles, and we knew inside of two hours everything was wrong with her.

[00:26:55] We, checked out every metabolic function. Good friend of mine's [00:27:00] a top functional medicine doc in a different part of the country. His metabolic testing is 52 tests or five times that. And it's not 'cause I love testing, it's because people with chronic illness, you have to be definitive to find real root causes.

[00:27:18] People talk about root cause but don't have the tools to find them. You gotta be extensive with testing to find We have instant results. We're not waiting six weeks for the first round of tests

[00:27:31] It's all done on day one. We know metabolic dysfunctions hormonal dysfunctions the root cause What's going on inside of the gut. What foods destroy health, what's foods? Build health, what they need to drink to build health. Then we go through infective issues.

[00:27:47] We find out what's going on with that stuff. Then we look at environmental toxins, on day one, we know pretty much everything. We may find some levels of, mold or toxicity that [00:28:00] we're gonna have to search out later. We know they're there and need to search those out.

[00:28:05] You have to set that up so you can test people in their own home to evaluate those things. So that'll be another thing, but we know it's there.

[00:28:17] Autumn Carter: Do you get blood work?

[00:28:19] Dr. Brad: Hardly ever. The reality blood work. When you look at Lyme disease, the best Lyme lab in the world is Hygienics.

[00:28:26] About a decade ago, their tests were only zero to 20% accurate. If you got a blood sample when the first one to two weeks of infection, which nobody does outside that one to two week window, there's no accuracy Now, their website says their tests are not a diagnosis.

[00:28:41] They do not test for the strains people get sick from. B 31 strain and Borrelia, Bergdorf, that's only common around the Connecticut where Lyme disease starts. It's not common anywhere else in the world. You don't get that in the West Coast, Midwest, the southeast [00:29:00] coast

[00:29:00] It's only around Connecticut where you get it, and that's where 90% of the tests are done labs have added some other strains, but the, accuracy of those tests is atrocious. You look at the accuracy of the food intolerance testing only 2 to 3% accurate.

[00:29:15] All they know how to do is measure the immune fractions. 97, 98% of the responses from foods is not mediated by the immune system. They have no idea what the mechanism is and no way to test it. 20 years ago, the top food intolerance testing was about 2200 bucks. Were the two to 3% accuracy.

[00:29:39] And most just doesn't work. candida testing most with cancer, die from candida. Candida can morph into cancer, cancer into candida, they're totally tied together. When you look at the studies with that, literally relatively no clinical value of the testing of that, and you, we just [00:30:00] go down the line, one test after the other.

[00:30:03] The tests were designed after the Louis pastor's model that bug A caused disease A bug B caused disease B, which Louis rejected by the end of his life. It's easy to manipulate people with lab tests the science was set up by Rockefeller to support his investment in the pharmaceutical industry to increase his returns and in Rockefeller's, the one who changed the whole course of medicine by lab tests and other things

[00:30:32] Autumn Carter: What do you do instead?

[00:30:34] Dr. Brad: There's four systems of testing. Lab tests. And we just talked about the, you have dark field or live cell microscopy where you get samples of blood. You don't put a backlight on, a specialized microscope. You stick the lens in the blood and look around in that.

[00:30:50] And I was at a Lyme forum where Tom Greer was running that for him. He's arguably the number one researcher [00:31:00] in Lyme disease. He was the head of the clinical pathology department in a research hospital. He had Lyme disease. So he was really invested and a wealth of information on one of his forums.

[00:31:12] And I asked him about that. He says the problem with dark field is you need stains to identify the species in a microscope. In a dark field, you see a corkscrew bacteria go through. That could be a Borrelia, it could be a syphilis bacteria, it could be benign. You have no idea.

[00:31:30] And I go, oh. he says you need a specific stain to tell you what species that is. To me that's the end of discussion. I'm not invested but I know people who use those tools

[00:31:42] Autumn Carter: using that to verify what you're already Yeah,

[00:31:46] Dr. Brad: yeah.

[00:31:47] You can't substantiate that and there's no way to test the therapy with that. Then you got electrical diagnostics. It's reasonably accurate for what it confined, but it has no ability [00:32:00] to determine cause or extent. And without being able to determine cause or extent, it has no value in clinical application on what to do.

[00:32:11] The last form of testing is muscle testing is 95 to 97% accurate in double-blind studies. there's a caveat on, who does that and what their attitude is. I had a whole bunch of clarifiers for that. That person can't have an agenda with that. they can't want to have everybody be what their pet thing is that they're famous for.

[00:32:36] We deal a lot with Lyme disease and find it in over half the people we see that didn't know they had it, because I look for it.

[00:32:46] The amount of Lyme disease that goes chronic is over the top. We can't measure percentage. the primary ways that people deal with it, they're only reducing symptoms and making the Lyme disease go into biofilms and they'll hang [00:33:00] out in the biofilms till they get stressed out breaks the biofilms.

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[00:33:03] Autumn Carter: What are biofilms?

[00:33:05] Dr. Brad: Biofilms? microbes in Lyme disease, four most common microbes brelia bacteria, the true Lyme disease. BIA is a single cell animal that decide your red blood cells, eats them from the inside. It's like a leaf miner and it drops your hemoglobin ability.

[00:33:25] To deal with oxygen, you got elicia. a small round bacteria that invades your immune cells and paralyze your immune system. You got rcia, small round bacteria, vasal lining your gut, lining your blood vessels make, so you can't digest nutrients and makes your blood vessels rough. So the blood cells tumble going down the blood vessels instead of just slide like a Teflon slide.

[00:33:50] Those hook together in geometric matrices. Like interlacing fingers they release a substance like gelatin that your immune system can't [00:34:00] penetrate. Antibiotics can't penetrate. And most of the things people use therapeutically to try and deal with these things can't penetrate those biofilms.

[00:34:09] So you gotta be creative with what you do to penetrate those. We've got ways to get through. You, have to find these things and you have to test what therapeutically they need to address it. And that changes multiple times as you heal. Lyme disease, even somebody who's had it for three decades or more, it doesn't take long to get rid of.

[00:34:33] What takes the longest is to deal with what set the stage for it. Lyme disease as a for instance there are Lichy and CIA that's usually gone in six to eight weeks. The Lyme bacteria, Borrelia usually takes about two, three weeks longer Babesia commonly, if somebody's reasonably healthy, the strongest form of that's four months [00:35:00] it, takes at least three months, oftentimes four or more to get rid of the yeast form of candida.

[00:35:08] The fungal form's too much longer than that. The fungal parasite form's too much longer than that. So you're talking 6, 8, 9 months to deal with gut issues when you're only talking two to do with three quarters of Lyme disease.

[00:35:24] Autumn Carter: It's layers of healing and this is taken care of. So now here's the next thing's, what it sounds like you're talking about.

[00:35:31] Dr. Brad: Right?

[00:35:32] Yeah. This is, it's a progression you, can't compartmentalize healing. gotta deal with it all the same time,

[00:35:39] Autumn Carter: This is why we come to you.

[00:35:41] Dr. Brad: It's, not stressful. It's complex, but could be made simple.

[00:35:45] Autumn Carter: we come to the, specialist

[00:35:49] Somebody who's gone to school for this

[00:35:50] Dr. Brad: Okay. You just said something really key. There was in Journal of American Medical Association, they call it jama article, I believe it was 2006 that [00:36:00] said that medical education had changed in 110 years.

[00:36:03] And they, their students come out of that institution with no tools to be able to address, understand, find chronic illness. All they teach is acute illness. All of the doctor schools, all the alternative ones. Chiropractic, naturopathic, homeopathic, no alternative school teaches chronic illness either. You gotta go outside of the camps to learn that.

[00:36:31] Autumn Carter: That way of thinking helps you with patients because you're willing to think outside modern medicine.

[00:36:37] And it sounds like you're using tools that have been around a long time instead of pharmaceutical tools.

[00:36:46] Dr. Brad: They're the forgotten tools of yesterday's genius. People who did amazing things

[00:36:54] Autumn Carter: Plato? Aristotle Let Food Be Thy Medicine.

[00:36:58] Dr. Brad: Aristotle.

[00:36:59] Autumn Carter: Aristotle!

[00:36:59] Dr. Brad: [00:37:00] I'm a student of physiology that's, the way my mind works. The only kind of construction jobs I didn't run was Bridges and highrises. I've done everything else. I ran those jobs when I was 17 years old.

[00:37:12] Autumn Carter: I see how that correlates because you have to know how things work. Same with the human body. You're fixing the managers inside our bodies.

[00:37:24] Dr. Brad: That's a good way to put it.

[00:37:26] Once you, understand the foundations of function, it doesn't change what goes on inside Exactly the same thing goes on inside the soil. You look at the pH there we, only function narrow range of pH and we get off either side of that to acetic or to basic cell function falls off

[00:37:44] That pH doesn't change from. Human to mammals, reptiles, birds, fish, soil, plants. Doesn't change.

[00:37:53] Autumn Carter: That's true. My plants, they like the certain level for their acidity and everything else. I like having plants near me. So I [00:38:00] have four here. I wanna make sure I'm understanding. It sounds like a lot of the basic things you're having your patients do like very basic building blocks, but then how long it's going to take and what the steps actually are depends on your specific patient.

[00:38:19] Dr. Brad: Yeah. We dealt with a family from a different country that had all kinds of things going on.

[00:38:25] Autumn Carter: Got the family,

[00:38:27] Dr. Brad: The mom came in first and I said.

[00:38:30] If I'm right, you got this in infancy. She was born, her mother almost bled to death, was given a transfusion in a foreign country and got all these things that are incurable. Hepatitis, Lyme disease, STDs,

[00:38:44] Autumn Carter: cause she was given dirty blood.

[00:38:46] Dr. Brad: Huge, bloom of stuff. She got that through nursing, said if you got it, your husbands can have it.

[00:38:50] All your children are gonna have it. If I'm right and brought 'em all in did something I'd never done before and do a family package with things.

[00:38:58] But I was [00:39:00] right. The, parents, a husband and wife, they'd had hepatitis for over 35 years. don't know if he had it before but as soon as they got together he had it. Two decades and all the children had the same thing.

[00:39:13] Guess how long it takes us to get rid of Hepatitis and medicine? Thinks it's incurable. Guess how long?

[00:39:18] Autumn Carter: No idea.

[00:39:19] Dr. Brad: Six weeks.

[00:39:20] Autumn Carter: Six weeks?

[00:39:21] Dr. Brad: it's gone why six weeks?

[00:39:22] Autumn Carter: Is that how long it takes Lining or something?

[00:39:26] Dr. Brad: No. When you understand physiology, do the right things.

[00:39:30] Epstein Bar same ballpark. Six weeks it's gone.

[00:39:36] Autumn Carter: Most of your testing is muscle testing and you're doing about 400 tests.

[00:39:42] Dr. Brad: 450 on average. Plus I do lab tests on urine, get a bunch of metabolic markers. I use a VIA to get some measurements.

[00:39:51] There's no other way to get those. Bio impedance analysis where that you get something called a phase angle. Phase angles, the [00:40:00] best marker of how healthy a person is.

[00:40:03] Those numbers go from zero to 12. Zero is poor health. Anything 5 and below is, really bad.

[00:40:12] I've seen some elevens. When I'm exercising quite a bit, I'm usually around 11. Six is mediocre. Nine is pretty good.

[00:40:25] Autumn Carter: So, nine is where you wanna be, nine and above.

[00:40:28] Dr. Brad: You want to be that. Several ways to get there. Exercise is one that you can undo a lot of unhealthy lifestyle, but it's by exercise, the right kind.

[00:40:39] there's another measurement with body capacitance. That's the nutrient density in your cells. With a scale of four to 1200, if they're 800 and above, they're gonna start to heal reasonably fast and take off quick. If they're close to 12, they'll take off really quick. But if they're considerably [00:41:00] below 800, they're gonna be real slow in healing.

[00:41:04] You can tell people on day one, you're gonna be a fast healer, you're gonna be a slow healer. This is the reason why, and it's gonna take a while to build nutrient density in your tissues. Once we do, healing will take off faster it's not gonna take off like a rocket.

[00:41:22] You're gonna go slow. It allows you to be more honest. You can, measure fat content, lean tissue, water content, the content inside of cells compared to outside of cells. And lets you know whether people have been built physiologically they should be or backwards.

[00:41:40] Autumn Carter: Interesting. I was thinking one day it'd be amazing to have a retreat that I take people on being a wellness coach of let's go to another country and where you have all the scans done you're telling me you can do what all those scans can do, but better.

[00:41:57] Dr. Brad: Way better. Invite me over it would blow [00:42:00] your mind I did a talk a lady had. Been vaxxed recently. she started having heart problems. They put in a pacemaker in her. And I was talking a small group and I said, do you all wanna come up here and I'll show you some testing inside of five minutes?

[00:42:18] I showed her what her root issues were and what caused her heart issues. Blew her away. I test much more extensively you need a bigger scope to make sure you have everything

[00:42:29] Autumn Carter: this root causes this, which causes this.

[00:42:32] Dr. Brad: Connect all the dots before you start with somebody.

[00:42:36] Autumn Carter: So are you telling me because the DEXA scan, you have to be a certain age or have conditions

[00:42:42] I always thought that could be the best way to see how you're doing.

[00:42:47] Dr. Brad: Absolutely not.

[00:42:48] We've had four year olds come in for testing. They've seen a multitude of docs. Nobody help 'em at all. We had one 4-year-old come in, not one hair on their body at [00:43:00] all.

[00:43:00] Not one mom was really neurotic and was taking this child from one doc to another Never followed up on anything. And a husband was just pulling his hair out with this whole thing. He went home, they'd been working with a rheumatologist. They had him on methotrexate, was a chemo drug for cancer.

[00:43:24] It killed all his cells to make hair

[00:43:26] Autumn Carter: good and bad. All of it.

[00:43:29] Dr. Brad: every rapidly dividing cell it kills. Your gut lining should replace cell every 24 hours. you can never repair your gut lining. Your blood is one of your faster growing cells.

[00:43:42] You can't replace new blood. Your skin's fast growing. You can't replace your skin. You got all these things that are kills. And here he is, 4-year-old, not a hair on their body. We did an evaluation. He went home his folks tried to give him methotrexate he says, I'm not doing that anymore.

[00:43:59] I [00:44:00] want to do what the doctor you took me to today showed me. I know he can heal me. Our testing is compelling. You can't convince a 4-year-old. You gotta show him. The way I test, I can prove before they get up off the table that we can get 'em better.

[00:44:17] We can prove it.

[00:44:18] Autumn Carter: You've talked to me about the testing, you've talked about how much it's gut health that's really what will help reset our bodies.

[00:44:29] The, lining and how it needs to be like this and not like this and how different foods medications lifestyle can do this to us makes sense to me.

[00:44:38] I have family members shocked I don't have hypertension I remind them I don't smoke, I handle my stress and I exercise and I am the ideal weight that my body wants to be. my body has a this is where I want you to be. If you're not, you're gonna feel this way.

[00:44:57] If you're too heavy or too thin, you're gonna [00:45:00] feel this. I'm in tune with my body to know where I need to be. they, think it's hereditary and it's not.

[00:45:07] Many things are lifestyle and we forget that.

[00:45:10] Dr. Brad: I started working with one of my son-in-laws. His blood pressure was over 200 on the top number. And, the bottom number was crazy high too. It was, nuts. Five days we got that down to normal blew him away, blew his friends away.

[00:45:28] He rides motorcycles. He went for a motorcycle ride with his buddy who goes, wow, Hugh, he really rode different today. What's up? He says, I don't feel like I got the way of the world on my shoulders. I can breathe. How's that? He says, I started working with this doc.

[00:45:43] Maybe I should do that too. Maybe you should.

[00:45:47] Autumn Carter: That's how you get a lot of patients.

[00:45:50] Dr. Brad: It's a good mix to have referrals we're different we walk with people.

[00:45:55] I'm one of the few docs people talk to. If you can't take a history, [00:46:00] and talk with somebody, you can't help the history gives you all the clues. it takes quite a bit to go over a history the right way interact with people and let them know what causes everything.

[00:46:14] Autumn Carter: Do you take insurance?

[00:46:17] Dr. Brad: nobody can offer you health that can take insurance, diagnosises are only an insurance code to give somebody the ability to bill and get paid for an insurance company.

[00:46:30] Autumn Carter: That's what I used to do medical billing and coding

[00:46:33] Dr. Brad: Medical doctors own all the codes.

[00:46:38] Autumn Carter: I feel like it's more pharmaceuticals.

[00:46:40] Dr. Brad: They're tied into pharmaceutical, but they own all the codes.

[00:46:44] Autumn Carter: Yep.

[00:46:45] Dr. Brad: Anybody not in that system can't use 'em.

[00:46:49] Autumn Carter: How do you set it up with people? Can they pay with FSA or HSA, health savings plans generally pretax

[00:46:56] Dr. Brad: Generally, that's an open door if you're looking

[00:46:59] Autumn Carter: to [00:47:00] wealth build, H-S-A-F-S-A 401k, those are where you wanna be.

[00:47:04] pre-tax.

[00:47:05] Dr. Brad: Yeah. And, your

[00:47:07] Autumn Carter: overall health is an amazing investment in yourself.

[00:47:10] Dr. Brad: Yeah. There's no one can offer you health through a paid insurance system. In Canada, come to the states and pay cash.

[00:47:21] It's out of pocket. You have the highest accountability with the highest integrity, and you get the best care when you pay out of pocket. every system that gets paid through those governmental or oversight payments, such as insurance, they don't allow the therapeutic intervention that gives you health.

[00:47:50] They only compensate for the reduction and management of symptoms.

[00:47:58] Autumn Carter: Correct. [00:48:00] For people wondering, is this gonna be outta my price range? Do I need to save up It's so varied.

[00:48:05] what can you offer your price range to be?

[00:48:08] Dr. Brad: Most of what I deal with is people with chronic illness is gonna take at least six months to deal with stuff. If you went to another clinic to get lab work that's on and give you a fraction of the information that I get, you can drop over nine grand for the lab work.

[00:48:25] We redo that at the end of every month. So the end of six months, you're talking over $50,000 worth of lab work alone. That's no care and that's nothing else. We're for six months of our care were less than the cost of the lab work or $7,500 bucks. And supplements are on top of that. Depends on what somebody is, what those are gonna be.

[00:48:49] That's dealing with chronic illness. People that don't have chronic illness, things are a lot less say somebody got exposed to Lyme disease they're [00:49:00] reasonably healthy and don't have gut issues you can usually have 'em done in six to eight weeks.

[00:49:05] Autumn Carter: What about someone who just feels off? They can't put their finger on it, but feel off, which can be many of us.

[00:49:13] Dr. Brad: Some of the common things with a gut being off bowel habits are really huge

[00:49:20] two to three bowel movements a day is normal. Normal comes from societies that don't have gastrointestinal disease.

[00:49:27] They're on whole food diets. With a whole food diet, you pretty much go every time

[00:49:32] 50% of the doctor business in America is gut issues and the doctors are not equipped with the most basic knowledge to even understand what's going on. They never ask about bowel habits. You cannot accept less than two bowel movements a day.

[00:49:47] You're toxic. Period. We'd had one person said their girlfriend went once every two to three weeks. I thought they were joking but she came in later [00:50:00] along, they weren't together anymore. She got giddy when her bowel got up to three times a day and her life changed.

[00:50:08] Autumn Carter: I bet

[00:50:08] Dr. Brad: she got giddy. Our record was once every five to six weeks. Most people think once a day is okay. You take all your carnivore people, have no fiber no nutrients in their diet. They go bricks, they get hemorrhoids fissures and all kinds of problems with that, and their hormones are complete wreck.

[00:50:30] You cannot accept less than two a day. So if you're less than two a day, if the stools you got gladed air freshener on the back of your toilet 'cause it stinks the room up. got mucus in your stools, your gut's a mess. You got food particles in your stools, the rinds of beans, that's not food particles, the rinds of tomatoes, that's not food particles.

[00:50:53] But you start seeing shrinks of whole foods in there. You know those are [00:51:00] issues. If you got a lot of gas. You got issues. If the gas smells, you've certainly got issues. So those are some of the simplest ways to tell if your hormones are off. You got issues, you got rashes, you got issues, you got respiratory problems, you got issues

[00:51:15] Autumn Carter: fatigue?

[00:51:16] That's super common

[00:51:17] Dr. Brad: okay. That is because the adrenals being attacked by all the toxicity You got hormone dysregulation, you got issues. If your cycles are rough, you got issues normal cycles should start with dark blood and shouldn't go bright. When you ovulate their cells that surround all your eggs and those cells before you ovulate, they create a fluid, it makes a cyst in the ovary.

[00:51:47] Ovulation is a bursting that cyst and the fluid pushes the egg out so the fallopian tube can catch it. Once the egg goes out, the cells that surrounded the [00:52:00] egg make a new follicle called a gring follicle. that makes progesterone, makes the arteries in the uterine lining clamp so that blood should be stagnant for 10 days before menzie starts.

[00:52:15] If that blood's bright, it never clam. this is why I ask women so many questions about parts of their cycle. It lets you know how their hormones are working.

[00:52:27] Autumn Carter: Society we're not taught to pay attention to our poop or our cycles and what is the blood the only time we care about our mucus lining is when trying to get pregnant.

[00:52:37] It's crazy,

[00:52:39] Dr. Brad: You can ask simple questions to understand how health is. You got brain fog. Your gut's a problem. autoimmune issues, your gut's a problem. So everything ties back into the gut. And if there's anything going on, the gut's an issue. And there's no program [00:53:00] that'll address these things.

[00:53:01] They all compartmentalize. They sell you a boatload of products that are oftentimes really toxic. Been working with one person for close to a decade, and occasionally they'll go and get one of them programs of stuff, and I get a call shortly thereafter is totally crashed out.

[00:53:19] It crashes every system those things are toxic and not the way to address things if, a family, mom, dad, and four kids all have the same thing, you're gonna have at least three. Probably five to six different ways people are addressed in that family.

[00:53:39] And it all changes no program can follow that and do that. They're just, they're not honest with themselves and they're not honest with their marketing.

[00:53:50] Autumn Carter: sums it up, I'm a family of six. I have four kids.

[00:53:53] You mentioned your website and a book Is that a free or paid version?

[00:53:57] Dr. Brad: The book I got is, one that is [00:54:00] worthwhile for every put on their show. It's called Exposing Lyme and Chronic Illness.

[00:54:05] You can't address Lyme disease without the underlying issues and complications there's immune function in here. There's five or six chapters on physiology

[00:54:16] hormones and intimacy and how all that works, their stories at the end of every chapter on somebody that went through that, except for hormones and intimacy.

[00:54:25] Autumn Carter: Sounds like this book is worth reading. Your website is the best place if we wanna work with you?

[00:54:30] Dr. Brad: Yeah that, one site getmewell.net. It is got links to my website. It's got links to my podcast, book, just clickable links. Okay. So it's the easiest way to find things and it's the best thing.

[00:54:45] Autumn Carter: Perfect. Thank you so much for this conversation. I have so much to process from this and I'm sure the listeners do as well.

[00:54:54] Thank you for your time. This was amazing.

[00:54:57] Dr. Brad: Thanks for the invite.

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[00:55:22] I am a certified life coach with a Bachelor's in Applied Health. That is what I am leaning on for this. This is general advice. Take it as such. See you in the next episode.